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Brush Engineered Materials, Inc. (BW)

Third Quarter 2009 Earnings Conference Call

October 29, 2009

 

 


Participants

Michael C. Hasychak, Vice President, Treasurer and Secretary

Richard Hipple, President, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

John D. Grampa, Vice President of Finance and Chief Financial Officer

James P. Marrotte, Vice President in Corporate Control. 

 

 

Presentation

 

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Brush Engineered Materials Inc. Third Quarter 2009 Earnings Conference Call.  At this time all participants are in a listen only mode.  A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.  If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press *0 on your telephone keypad.  As a reminder this conference is being recorded.  

 

It is now my pleasure to introduce your host Michael Hasychak, Vice President, Treasurer and Secretary for Brush Engineered Materials.  Thank you, you may begin.

 

Michael Hasychak – Brush Engineered Materials – VP, Treasurer & Secretary

Good morning, this is Mike Hasychak, with me today is Dick Hipple President, Chairman and CEO, John Grampa Senior Vice President of Finance and Chief Financial Officer and Jim Marrotte Vice President in Corporate Control. 

 

Our format for today’s conference call is as follows: John Grampa will comment on the third quarter 2009 results in the outlook and Dick Hipple will give a market update and general comments.  Thereafter we will open it up, the teleconference call for questions.  A recorded playback of this call will be available until November 13 by dialing area code 877, the number is 660-6853, account number 286 and conference ID number 334765.  The international replay number is area code 201 and the number is 612-7415.  The call will also be archived on the company’s website beminc.com.  To access the replay, click on ‘Events & Presentations’ on the Investor page.

 

Any forward looking statement made in this announcement including those in the outlook section and during the question and answer portion are based on current expectations.  The company’s actual future performance may materially differ from that contemplated by the forward looking statements as a result of a variety of factors.  Those factors are listed in the earnings press release issued this morning.  And now I’ll turn it over to John Grampa for comments. 

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Thank you Mike.  Good morning everyone and welcome to our third quarter call.  Today’s format is the same as that of past calls.  I will review the quarter and then comment on the outlook; following my prepared comments Dick Hipple will provide you with a market update and a review of other key company factors.  Dick will also provide a briefing on the recently announced acquisition and how it fits into the company’s strategy.  Hopefully some of our comments will pre-answer some of your questions and following our reviews, we will open the call for questions. 

 

I’ll focus on some of the key points identified in the press release covering both the quarter and the outlook for the fourth quarter.  We will not comment on the outlook beyond the fourth quarter which while showing signs of additional improvement remains, we think in this environment, simply too unpredictable and too uncertain to be specific about.  There just isn’t much visibility in our markets.  First I’ll review the sales and earnings levels along with the key items affecting them and the comparisons to the preceding quarter including metal prices, certain market factors and other factors affecting the reported growth.  I will also review the key items that affected the current quarters earnings levels.  Then I’ll review our cash flow and the state of our balance sheet which as you know is very strong and is expected to continue to improve.  Third, I will comment briefly on some of the financial dimensions of the Barr Associates acquisition and then following my comments in these three areas I will review the outlook. 

 

Let’s begin with sales and earnings.  As you know this morning we reported sales of approximately $191 million for the third quarter while below the prior year, third-quarter levels [audio skip] approximately $50 million were about 16 million or 9% better than the second quarter sales.  Sales for the quarter were slightly above the high-end of the guidance we had provided, primarily due to stronger businesses from our consumer electronic oriented markets.  Approximately $6 million of the prior quarter’s sales was represented by a shipment of hydroxide and we had approximately 1 million of hydroxide shipments in the third quarter.  Hydroxide shipments generally occur in only one or two quarters of the year excluding this $5 million difference from the comparison, the companies core businesses improved sequentially by approximately $21 million or 12% from Q2 to Q3.  Metal price movement did not have a significant impact on the comparisons to the same quarter of the prior year.  Metal price deflation or said differently, that portion of both precious and non-precious metal price declines that we normally pass on to customers lowered sales by approximately 1 percentage point in the quarter compared to the prior year.  Thus the decline in the real business levels or volumes in the quarter compared to the prior year quarter was about 20%.  Metal price increases raised sales in the third quarter by about $45 million or 3 percentage points, compared to the second quarter.  Considering this and they hydroxide shipment difference that I mentioned earlier, real business levels in the third quarter were up approximately 9% sequentially comparing to the second quarter.  I should also note that the foreign exchange impact on revenue was deminimous[ph], a fraction of a percent in these comparisons. 

 

Comparing to the second quarter of the year, about $15 million of the $21 million sequential growth in the fourth quarter was in our advanced material segment.  Six million was in the engineered alloys segment and $2 million in our engineered materially systems segment.  The sequential growth in these segments is due principally to the recovering consumer electronics business levels.  Our beryllium and beryllium composites business declined from the second quarter by about $3 million due to the push out of very high margin defense business.  The report of profit for the quarter was $0.01 a share, an improvement from the first quarter loss of $0.40 a share the second quarter loss of $0.04.  The quarter was consistent with the guidance we provided which was that the company expected to generate a slight profit in the third quarter.  There were several factors, both positive and negative that affected reported results in the quarter.  Increased volume in cost reductions did favorably affect third quarter when compared to the second quarter.  The third quarter was also favorably affected by a discreet tax item which was expected.

 

The third quarter was negatively affected by unexpected manufacturing issues, acquisition related costs and delays in the shipment of the high margin defense business.  The manufacturing issues and the acquisition related costs hurt the quarter versus our initial expectations by about $0.05 a share and the delays in the defence business hurt the quarter by an additional $0.05 a share.  The discreet tax item, again, which was expected was $0.04 a share and resulted from the reversal of reserves that are no longer required.

 

Now let’s turn to cash flow and the balance sheet.  As you know our balance sheet is very strong and in the quarter it improved even further as debt net of cash declined an additional $5 million.  The company’s debt net of cash to capital ratio was approximately 3% at the end of the quarter.  The condition of our balance sheet, including our available cash and our existing credit line is a major factor in our ability to pursue quality acquisitions such as the Barr Associates acquisition recently announced.  Dick will comment further on Barr in a moment.  We are pleased to have the liquidity we do to support our operations as well as the flexibility to capitalize on even other important strategic initiatives that might present themselves in this economic environment. 

 

I would like to comment briefly now on certain of the financial dimensions of the Barr acquisition and then Dick will cover the strategic fit.  The Barr Associates acquisition was an important acquisition for the company.  The acquisition was announced on the 23rd of October and is described briefly in today’s press release.  The purchase price was approximately $55 million.  The acquisition was financed through internally generated cash plus proceeds of approximately $25 million from the companies $240 million revolving line of credit.  Barr will be consolidated with the advanced materials segment of our company and as many of you know we do not disclose sales, profits and other financial information related to individual units within our segments.  Nonetheless I do feel that it is appropriate to at least attempt to put some frame of work around the acquisition for you.  The precision thin film, optical mark materials that Barr manufactures enable complex technologies in a variety of markets, as Dick will describe later.  We expect the growth in these markets to be consistently in the double digits.  Acquisitions of technologies such as this, are usually at EBITDA modelables[ph] from 7 to 9.  Operating profit percentages are generally in the double digits and at this time we expect that this acquisition will be accretive to the company’s earnings in 2010. 

 

I will now turn to the outlook.  While the company did experience significant widespread weakness in an environment with limited visibility across a majority of its markets earlier in the year, the level of our overall business activity began to improve as the first quarter ended and the second quarter began.  That improving trend continued throughout the second and third quarters and into the early part of the fourth quarter.  Overall the company is seeing improvement in its order entry driven primarily by the consumer electronics oriented markets.  Certain of its other markets, certainly the industrial markets had however not shown any significant signs of improvement and the defence market which remains strong throughout the first half did weaken in the third quarter.  Whilst difficult in this environment to clearly envisioned future trends, the company does expect business levels to continue to improve.  Generally the fourth quarter of the year, sales are noticeably lower due to seasonal factors.  At this time though, due to the improving trends noted earlier and the impact of the acquisition, fourth quarter sales are expected to improve by up to 8% from third quarter levels and be in the range of 195 million to 205 million in the forth quarter.

 

Looking beyond the fourth quarter, the company expects markets to remain unpredictable and is not assuming a robust economic recovery.  Thus we expect to continue to monitor and where possible, maintain our aggressive cost reduction actions and capital control initiatives.  It is important to always reiterate that the company’s outlook is subject to significant variability especially given the current economic environment.  Changes in demand levels, metal prices, metal supply conditions, new product qualification and ramp up rates, swings in customer inventory levels, changes in the financial health of key customers, acquisition related costs and other factors can have a significant effect on actual result.  The outlook that I provided is based on the company’s best estimates at this time and is subject to significant fluctuation, due to these as well as other factors.

 

I will now turn the call over to Dick Hipple and dick will provide you with a market update. 

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

Thank you John.  The market continues to be encouraging, particularly in the consumer electronic sector which is a major driver for our overall sales.  From regions of the world, Asia remains the strongest, with slower growth coming from the US and Europe.  The ongoing increase in sales, quarter to quarter this year, with the expectation of this to continue through the fourth quarter supports the combined impact of an improving global economy and inventory replenishment.  In the meantime, in a non-consumer market we have not seen a substantiative increase in demand such as from the oil and gas and commercial aerospace markets.  Our high DE defence business has seen a decline as programs have unexpectedly been delayed, although not cancelled.  The heavy industrial markets have not yet rebounded however they are expected to improve as we move into 2010, as the inventory situation appears to be improving. 

 

I would now like to briefly discuss our recent acquisition of Barr Associates.  During this downturn we have been able to maintain a strong balance sheet and liquidity and as we have discussed before we are interested in pursuing acquisitions and continue to be, should the right strategic opportunity present itself.  We are excited about the recent addition of Barr to the Brush team.  Barr is the leading, independent designer, developer and manufacturer of high precision thin film coatings and optical filters.  The addition of Barr rapidly expands our technology and market footprint in the growing especially thin film optics area ranging from ultraviolet, visible to far infrared spectral regions.  Barr has a worldwide brand name in a wide array of application is IR imaging, targeting and sensing, telecoms and spectroscopy in the commercial, medical, defense, space and astronomy markets.  Barr’s manufacturing expertise allows it to economically produce components for unique, complex applications as well as higher volume OEM production needs.  The Barr brand and it’s employees are leaders in the field of advance thin film material science technology and innovation that are a powerful addition to the Brush Team.  We also see good synergy with our prior optical coating acquisition TFT which has a more limited technology reach in the optics market while having additional capabilities in coating for hybrid circuits and large area shapes.  The acquisition of Barr meets our strategic criteria of high technology and differentiated products, low capital intensity and position in markets and applications with strong growth opportunities.  We will be working very hard to quickly integrated Barr and are excited about the opportunities that can be leveraged on a global basis with a broader global presence that Brush offers to Barr.  The combination of all three recently acquired specially thin film coating acquisitions, TFT, Techni-Met and now Barr brings to Brush critical mass in a dynamic and growing downstream high technology value add thin film coating business. 

 

A change in gears, I’d like to discuss the outlook.  It has been the case for quite a while where visibility is very limited.  However given the macroeconomic conditions, I would expect 2010 to be better than 2009 while being softer than 2008.  Fundamentally I would expect the consumer to be down in 2010 as compared to 2008.  The availability and cost of financing to both the consumer and the business community will also be a drag on macroeconomic growth.  Meanwhile we do expect to see some additional modest growth from 2009 in our heavier industrial applications such as oil and gas and commercial aerospace.  All in all, finishing out 2009 and looking in 2010 is cloudy at best, but as always our strategic intent throughout all of our businesses is to find ways to profitably grow in spite of economic [INAUDIBLE].  Thank you and I guess we’ll take questions.

 

Operator

Thank you.  Ladies and gentlemen we will now be conducting a question and answer session.  If you would like to ask a question, please press *1 on your telephone keypad.  A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue.  You can press *2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue.  For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing * key.  One moment please while we poll for questions. 

 

Our first question is from Avinash Kant with DA Davidson.  Please go ahead with your question. 

 

<Q:>  Good morning Dick and John.

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO
Morning.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Good Morning.

 

<Q:>  A few questions to, I know, you were talking about some of the defense related shipments that could not happen this quarter and they were higher margin.  Should we assume that those shipments will happen in the fourth quarter, hence your margin will be up disproportionately from volume and also from better mix.

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

No I wouldn’t assume that.  The margin will be up because that business level will be us slightly in Q4 from Q3 but the entire delay will not make itself up in the fourth quarter, so some of it will push into first quarter. 

 

<Q:>  Okay, but all of it will be kind of taken care up between the fourth and the first quarter?

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

Well we can’t be certain because we just don’t know what level of additional push-offs may or may not exist so no I wouldn’t make that assumption. 

 

<Q:>  Okay.  And you had a tax benefit in the current quarter, what should be modeling the normalized tax rate?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
I think you should model the statutory rate.

 

<Q:>  30%

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Perhaps around 35%.

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

Mid-30’s.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Mid-30s.

 

<Q:>  Mid-30’s right.  Okay and the Q4 guidance that you have given, compared to Q3, what’s the upside, like what is driving the upside in Q4 which is of course against the seasonality.  Which segments are driving the upside in Q4?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Well at this point in time Avinash, it is still coming from the consumer electronics area.

 

<Q:>  Consumer electronics.  And I know you have a significant exposure to cell phones and everything, have you seen anything in terms of some sort of inventory there for the fourth quarter?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Well typically you’re going to find, in the fourth quarter, in the consumer electronics area, that you know, typically the seasonality would be a better say fourth quarter than first quarter because you have all the holiday’s sales that will go on across the board, so you still have the building go on, so you know what will happen in the first quarter, will all be a function of how well do these guys get as to what the holiday sales are going to be.

 

<Q:>  Right but up until Q4, you still see momentum continuing to build in that one, right?  You’re not seeing any slow down yet.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
That is correct.

 

<Q:>  Okay.  And oil and natural gas segments is something that you kind of have started to see some traction it looks like

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
A little bit.

 

<Q:>  Little bit right.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
We’re just starting to get the initial signals.

 

<Q:>  So that’s more in Q4 than in Q3 right.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Yeah there was nothing in Q3. 

 

<Q:>  It was up in Q3?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
I said it, you know we’re just seeing some very early signals now, coming out of the oil and gas sector.

 

<Q:>  Okay.  And the manufacturing issue that you did see, did it impact only the advanced materials technology business segment or it was in two other segments too?

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

No that was just the advanced materials technology segment?

 

<Q:>  and could you elaborate a little bit what it was and has it been taken care of?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Yeah it has been taken care of and typically, you know we’re going to be, you know it will still affect the fourth quarter somewhat but it has been taken care of. 

 

<Q:>  So it was a yield issue or some, what was it about?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Oh it was a quality issue, shipping to a customer.

 

<Q:>  From you or from your suppliers.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
No, from us. 

 

<Q:>  Okay. Perfect, thank you so much.

 

Operator

The next question is from Anthony Sorrentino with Sorrentino Metals.  Please go ahead with your question.

 

<Q:>  Good morning everyone.

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

Good morning.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Morning.

 

<Q:>  How much has been cut out of costs to date?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Boy, that’s a moving target Anthony.  We continue to see gain quarter on quarter, you can tally up some of the improvement in our margins from what you saw in the first quarter, the cost coming out of the system.  You also can look at our SG&A levels, what they are now, especially if you take out some of the one time items we had here in the third quarter but it is a tough number, it is a significant benefit that we’ve had to our results so far.

 

<Q:>  Okay and I would presume that those cost cuts are sustainable going forward.

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

Did you say are or aren’t?

 

<Q:>  I said are, that they are sustainable going forward?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Well no, you can’t make that assumption.  When we walk through the, earlier in the year, the actions that we have taken, the portion of those actions and those cost reductions were in areas that we related to volume and as volume begins to respond, some of those costs will start to need to come back into the system to support the higher levels of business.  So no we can’t assume that they’re sustainable.  We would hope that obviously the business comes back.  Having said that, we do not believe that if business comes back to the same level that all of the costs will be brought back.

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

Sorry, I know you’ve got things, like you know the wage cuts and things like that, you’re not going to have a permanent wage cut of the company, you know, we made those moves to react to some very terrible business conditions, so you know you’ve got some of those, but we’ve also made permanent cuts in the overhead structure and those will be sustainable, so it’s a mix.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO

We’re going to need to judge where we are as business responds.

 

<Q:>  Okay and with regard to ruthenium media targets, you said in the release that you will have an opportunity to regain some market share, would that likely be over the next year or so?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Yeah.

 

<Q:>  Okay, fine.  Thank you very much.

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

You’re welcome.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Thank you.

 

Operator

As a reminder if you’d like to ask a question, please press * followed by 1 on your telephone keypad.  The next question is from Chuck Murphy with Sidoti & Company.  Please state your question.

 

<Q:>  Morning guys. 

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Good morning.

 

<Q:>  I apologize if I’m repeating a question, I’m bouncing back and forth between calls.  I was wondering, what is it going to take to get the alloy business going again, what’s weak there and you know, could get better in the future?

 

Richard Hipple – Brush Engineered Materials – President Chairman & CEO

Well, you know we’re seeing recovery in that business, like we had tremendous costs taking out of that business.  The break-even point is substantially down so that, you know we certainly expect to see, when we’re seeing now, the beginning of recovery in that market and there’s you know, two major segments of that business, one is kind of driven by the electronics area and we’re starting to see certainly that kick up and then you’ve got a more of a lag on the whole heavy side, the oil and gas, commercial aerospace, but again we expect to see that start to kick in, certainly early next year.  So you know we expect to get much better performance out of that particular division has been moved forward here.  It’s been, you know, as you know it’s been a horrible situation in that division but the volume loss there was just incredible, so we’ve really driven down the break-even point and we will see this volume coming back and we’re seeing it now. 

 

<Q:>  Gotcha, now why has the advanced materials business improved so much sequentially over the last two quarters and alloy hasn’t when they, kind of like you said, they, a big part of both of their business is electronics.

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Well the, we saw a faster response in the Williams area in this area.  You know everything, it doesn’t always happen simultaneously, so we saw the pick-up faster at Williams and so that, and plus Williams is more into that whole market area so their impact is quicker and faster in their entirety than the alloy business.  In fact what we saw in that alloy business is that the heavy side didn’t bottom out until late second quarter, early third quarter, it was still going down so what shielded some of the improvements in the alloy division was that we started with decent pick-up in the electronic sector but that was over swamped by continuing declines in the heavy sector, and I think you’ll find that same story if you go out and you just take a look at some companies that are purely in that sector, if it be like a carpenter steel or one of those guys, if you kind of look what’s going on, you’ll see you know some of these markets and they were still, they hadn’t bottomed out yet, so that’s a little different and then of course Williams isn’t subject to those particular margins.  So some of the improvement was just shielded is my answer.

 

<Q:>  Okay.  And what about the beryllium business, I mean what is the outlook there, yeah, what needs to happen to get things going there?

 

John D. Grampa – Brush Engineered Materials – VP Finance & CFO
Well actually that business is in king of two major categories, it’s the high rolling business and we’re seeing some softness there as earlier reported, and then we have what I call more of the commercial business, that’s the downstream which is the electrocution business and both of those businesses are important to the profitability of the division, so what we’re seeing right now is the softness on the defence side and again that’s kind of a big unknown, I mean we’ve got these delays going on and we think that those delays ought to be you know fixing themselves over the next six months but that is still, that story is still yet to be told but then at the same time we are seeing on the commercial side of the business which is our electrocution operation, that business is picking up, but that’s the business that we provide a lot of x-ray, industrial devices and medical devices, you know for the windows.

 

<Q:>  Gotcha.  Okay, that’s all I had. Thanks. 

 

Operator
There are no further questions in queue, I’d like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.

 

Michael Hasychak – Brush Engineered Materials – VP, Treasurer & Secretary

Hi, this is Mike Hasychak.  We’d like to thank all of you for participating on the call today.  I’ll be around for the remainder of the afternoon to answer any questions, my direct dial number is 216-383-6823.  Thank you very much.

 

Operator

This concludes today’s teleconference.  You may disconnect your lines.  Thank you for your participation. 

 


 
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